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, if you are at work you can make some really good buys. you have the january effect, the tax loss selling going on all month. this year is an unusual year in that you have also not just tax loss selling but you have people taking gains on stocks that they've held for years that they're trying to take advantage of, the 15% capital gains rate. we've seen a lot of that. the point is there's been a lot more selling this december. i look for several stocks to bounce back in early january. >> you are on hold until you can see the whites of their ey in washington. right? i mean, you're waiting to see what happens with this fiscal cliff? >> i am. i tell you, i think that the christmas gift people are getting right now is to sell above 13,000. we were surprised we're not getting a deal. i'm surprised the market's as firm as it is and it is very easy to overthink this. well, must be firm. the bulls are strong. hey, we go higher. i think that's not the read at all. i think the initial reaction we got when they sent the house of representatives home on thursday night is what we're going to see when t
there will be a resolution and that's largely based on the fact that plan "b" turns from a tax hike to a tax cut as of january 1st. >> so your forecast is -- your forecast is conditional on a resolution and that makes more sense to me. >> rick santelli, i mean, even if we do go over the cliff, anyone you've spoken to that actually believes we would stay interest. >> wouldn't we claw back at some point? >> i think that whether we go over the cliff in the traditional cnbc sense or not, we're still in for a lot of issues, and i particularly want to address my buddy jared. first of all, you know, happy holidays, jared. >> thank you. >> but you did work for joe biden, okay? and how you can be -- how you can be here telling us all how bad it is to go over the fiscal cliff when senators barack obama, senator joe biden, senator harry reid in 2006 all turned down w's request to raise the debt ceiling . >> the fiscal cliff was born in 2011. >> he didn't like it then but he wants today. he wants carte blanche today. >> let him answer, rick. >> i listened to you. please listen to me. i know that's not easy
is down 17 now at 2973. and the s&p 500 index is down eight points right now at 1411. so the tax cuts and spending cuts, there's fear of another u.s. debt downgrade by the major rating agencies. >> will that happen, and will it derail any hopes of a real economic recovery? in today's "closing bell" exchange lee munson and jared bernstein, cnbc contributor and former chief economist under vice president joe biden. we'll hopefully get andrew in a second, and we also have rick santelli who joins us as always at this time. gentlemen, fantastic to have you with us. lee, on this news it seems as if the market is getting its hopes up. personally i feel i will believe it when i see it. would you agree? >> yeah. you should wait until this is actually the ink is dried. here's one thing that's really changed in sentiment over the last week, mandy. last week everybody was talking about having this deal baked into the bryce price. now all of a sudden, as if some miracles happened, traders are actually talking about buying more puts and putting on more hedges. i can tell investors out there that it
in an effort to avoid those series of tax increases and spending cuts due to take effect next year. what we hear is the senate leaders are there. speaker boehner and minority leader nancy pelosi have yet to arrive, but now we're showing you live pictures. maybe somebody is going to get out of that car, and we'll see if any of the other leaders will be heading to the white house. this is speaker boehner right now heading into the white house. we'll keep you updated as this hour progresses here. >> indeed, meantime, more red arrows here on wall street as investors are awaiting for any signs of progress from the white house meeting which is about to get under way. right now we're sitting smack on 13,000. we've clawed back from being below that earlier on today. the nasdaq has also moved to the downside by half a percent as we speak. the s&p 500, as we speak, folks, is now down for the fifth straight day. i think it's down about 1.3% over the course of this week. so far let's see what happens over the last crucial hour of this trading day. >> so the clock is ticking. all eyes are on the white h
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